kennet_h

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• Apr 27,

• #1

Hello!

I'm looking to buy a powerful E-bike.

*I want it to be able to go offroad.
*Have 40 mile+ range, riding 40 MPH.
*Have god/stiff suspension(I am 103kg/227lb)
*Can push a button, to make it switch over to 250w power, only assist while i pedal, no assist after 25 KMH.
(This is not a must, but would be a big positive, since it would make it comply with the laws, in Norway)
*40 MPH minimum, but would like it to be able to go 50 MPH and be safe.
Hill climbing, and acceleration, is more important to me, than top speed, as long as it is 40+MPH.

I'm a total noob with this, so it is hard for me to decide what would be the best buy.
I have been looking for something like this

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-Leili-Hottest-w-Enduro-ebike_.html?spm=a.details.maylikehoz.5.569d1e1ewlMaTv

That is the absolute upper ceiling of what i'm willing to spend, so if i can find something cheaper, that filles my requirements, that would be great!

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

kennet_h

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• Apr 27,

• #2

I'm also unsure about how big battery i will need.

Anyone who wants to take a guess, on how many W. Would be needed, to push a 103 kg guy 40MPH, on a straight road, with no pedal assist?

markz

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• Apr 27,

• #3

Dont even bother with that ride off of Alibaba.

Buy yourself a nice regular bicycle, locally.
Then buy yourself a nice em3ev.com triangle bag, and a battery to fit that triangle bag. Then look at the QS direct drive motors, with a Adaptto controller.

pinkbike.com is a good place to start.
local classifieds like Kijiji (Canada) and Craigslist

W aint legal, but who knows what the Fuzz is like over there. If you do it right, your bike wont look too out of place. Just dont go around being a complete goof and you wont get pinched.

Adaptto Controller - http://adaptto.envolt.se/
*Get every accessory that goes along with it.
Max-E $745usd + BMS + Coil + Eaton PSU + Balance leads
*While you are at it, they can make your battery for you. Might as well.


QS Motor - https://qsmotor.aliexpress.com/store/
Your motor - https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/W-Spoke-hub-Motor-for-electric-motorcycle-V3-Type/_.html?spm=..0.0.5c9emy7b4e

Battery - www.EM3EV.com (China) or www.ebikes.ca (Canada)
Triangle Bag - www.EM3EV.com

Oh dont forget torque arms, a couple throttles.

kennet_h

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• Apr 27,

• #4

Thank you for the detailed reply!

I'm a little worried about building it myself, might take a long time, and not end up that good :lol:

Also building a bike with that power, and my weight, on a regular bike, with regular rims/tires, sound a little scary.

But i will definitely take a look at your suggestions, and do some Research

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• Apr 29,

• #5

Maybe you can just pick up one of these and do some upgrades. I just think though an w bike needs to be built of some stern stuff.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26-350W-Fat-Tire-Electric-Bicycle-Bike-Ebike-Mountain-Beach-w-Lithium-Battery/?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D%26meid%3D93c3ac458d4d48a8aaa440c6efc%26pid%3D%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D%26itm%3D&_trksid=p.c.m

Compoundbike

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• Apr 29,

• #6

Just buy a Stealth Bike/Qulbix/Vector bike and save some headache... my opinion.
Also watt is serious power, my 3kw bike reaches already 40mph+ and im also a 220 pound guy.
Depending the battery; i would go with a 72 V and 40 amp.

changeissimple

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• Apr 29,

• #7

Compoundbike said: Just buy a Stealth Bike/Qulbix/Vector bike and save some headache... my opinion.
Also watt is serious power, my 3kw bike reaches already 40mph+ and im also a 220 pound guy.
Depending the battery; i would go with a 72 V and 40 amp.

I am going to purchase a watt MXUS. Are you running 72v at 40amps to get you to 40mph+???
I was thinking of running a 48v Panasonic PF (high output) battery that i have at 60 amps with a goal of 40mph. I weigh 145lbs. Thoughts??

MadRhino

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• Apr 29,

• #8

Big hub motors can be fed 20+ Kw bursts in acceleration. So, you might reconsider watt is ‘serious power’.

Two main factors are affecting performance: watts and weight. Those heavy Chinese ebike frames with motorcycle wheels and tires are not so powerful at w.

Nevertheless, fast speed is making it important to build with quality components, and provide conscious maintenance. That is a good reason to build yourself, so you know everything about your bike. If you add shipping and custom fees to a fast Chinese bike, you can build much better for the money.

markz

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• Apr 29,

• #9

You think a generic Alibaba bicycle is quality?

Buy a quality brand name frame and have peace of mind.

eCue

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• Apr 29,

• #10

Might find a worthy ebike in the "for sale" section of this website if not then craigs list or the like. I have seen some bad ass ebikes on craigs list

miro13car

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• Apr 30,

• #11

" just buy Stealth bike..." - just like that USD 10,000 price tag.
I would also stay away from Alibaba purchases, too many bad stories ...

rumme

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• Apr 30,

• #12

for 40 mph..you sure as hell wont need 8 KW of power....

3-5 KW will easily get you to 40 mph top speed, especially if you use a hub motor mounted in a larger rim/wheel.

I can easily do 45 mph , in a 19 inch rim, with 4-5 KW.....If I were to put the same KW with my hub motor , into a 26 inch rim, top speed will increase.

rumme

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Compoundbike said: Just buy a Stealth Bike/Qulbix/Vector bike and save some headache... my opinion.
Also watt is serious power, my 3kw bike reaches already 40mph+ and im also a 220 pound guy.
Depending the battery; i would go with a 72 V and 40 amp.

are you truly getting 40-45 mph top speed on flat land with your 220 lb bodyweight using only 3 KW of power { measured with a GPS} ?

If so, is your motor mounted in a 26 inch rim ? For me to get 45 mph top speed, I need to pump about - KW into my rear wheel, and I weigh 210 lbs...but my rear wheel is small 19" rim.

MadRhino

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• Apr 30,

• #14

rumme said:

Compoundbike said: Just buy a Stealth Bike/Qulbix/Vector bike and save some headache... my opinion.
Also watt is serious power, my 3kw bike reaches already 40mph+ and im also a 220 pound guy.
Depending the battery; i would go with a 72 V and 40 amp.

are you truly getting 40-45 mph top speed on flat land with your 220 lb bodyweight using only 3 KW of power { measured with a GPS} ?

If so, is your motor mounted in a 26 inch rim ? For me to get 45 mph top speed, I need to pump about - KW into my rear wheel, and I weigh 210 lbs...but my rear wheel is small 19" rim.

Weight should include bike’s weight. Riding weight vs watts is your first measure of power.

Then comes wheel size. If your 19’’ is motorcycle rim, it is about 25’’ OD wheel. It is smaller than a 26’’ bicycle wheel but with higher inertia due to weight. A 24’’ bicycle wheel would be similar in size, but giving better performance with lesser Amp draw.

Next is wind drag, that can be very different between two riders and different bikes.

Many other factors are making effective power differences, to a lesser value. Even riding the same bike, two riders are unlikely to have the same efficiency.

Compoundbike

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• Apr 30,

• #15

rumme said:

Compoundbike said: Just buy a Stealth Bike/Qulbix/Vector bike and save some headache... my opinion.
Also watt is serious power, my 3kw bike reaches already 40mph+ and im also a 220 pound guy.
Depending the battery; i would go with a 72 V and 40 amp.

are you truly getting 40-45 mph top speed on flat land with your 220 lb bodyweight using only 3 KW of power { measured with a GPS} ?

If so, is your motor mounted in a 26 inch rim ? For me to get 45 mph top speed, I need to pump about - KW into my rear wheel, and I weigh 210 lbs...but my rear wheel is small 19" rim.

Im not sure how much the "Burst" Watt was, but my QS205 V2 on a Quilbix Q76R saw real 45 mph on a Forest gravel Road. Usually i run 3kW..

MadRhino said: Two main factors are affecting performance: watts and weight. Those heavy Chinese ebike frames with motorcycle wheels and tires are not so powerful at w.

on that picture the bike has a QS273 which is already very powerful.. but im not sure if the "chinese" batteries will support that.

MadRhino

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• Apr 30,

• #16

Compoundbike said: on that picture the bike has a QS273 which is already very powerful.. but im not sure if the "chinese" batteries will support that.

It is unlikely that enough batteries are included to give full advantage of this motor. It is also unlikely that most components are up to the task. Then, if it is fed only w, a 273 is a boat anchor.

MiddleBrook723

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• Apr 30,

• #17

markz said: You think a generic Alibaba bicycle is quality?

Buy a quality brand name frame and have peace of mind.

True, I would not trust an Alibaba build.

kennet_h

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• May 1,

• #18

So what would be the best 8kw motor to get? The QS 273?http://www.cnqsmotor.com/en/article_read/QS%20Motor%W%%H%20V3%20E-Motorcycle%20Spoke%20Hub%20Motor/264.html

And could anyone recommend a good frame, that will fit a 72V 40ah battery?

I'm a little hesitant to build something myself.

Do the engines die often, or are there a good life expectancy?

Even if i decide to build it myself, it will end up looking pretty much like the one i linked to, in the first post.

I do not trust bicycle rims/tires, with my weight and 60 MPH.

kennet_h

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• May 2,

• #19

If i want to accelerate fast, and cruise at 80KMH/50MPH.
And have long life expectancy of the motor, would this be a good alternative?

http://www.cnqsmotor.com/en/article_read/QS%20Motor%W%%H%20V3%20E-bike%20Spoke%20Hub%20Motor/260.html

Any other motor that would be better suited?

recommendations for a controller would also be appreciated.

The Adaptto controller recommended earlier, looks really good, but if it could be done for a better price, with good life expectancy, that would be great!

MadRhino

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• May 2,

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Wheel size?
Total riding weight expected (bike and rider)?
Hills?

IMO, the 273 is overkill for your requirements.
Unless you ride heavy and/or very hilly terrain, you’d be fine with the QS205v3 H50. Cheap controller for the performance that you seek, is to buy the controller recommended by QS for this motor. That would be a Kelly, and they sell it for a good price.

Chalo

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• May 2,

• #21

What happens after the cops decide you're riding an illegal unlicensed motorcycle?

kennet_h

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• May 2,

• #22

I think i would use 19" rims.

Total riding weight, about 170kg.

There is some steep hills, where i live.
I would ride it as hard as i could, and still make it last for a while. (Don't know how hard that would be?)

Chalo

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No really, do you have a plan for when the police decide to crack down on an obvious violator? Or are you going to trust that they take it easy on you?

kennet_h

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Depends on my mood i guess 8)
Overpowered E-bikes is not prioritised by the norwegian police at the moment.

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